We've talked about it. Extensively. As someone who hold parlimentary and democratic action above most things I can say that I was in the wrong on a few accounts. Following:
Cursing is prohibitted. I did it out of admittingly specific anger. At the excuse that was used by gohan. That in combination with kagekaisen and the use of the site despite needing to be here, when I could have just closed the site.
Secondly, KK is dead. Of course he knows that and Sazu knows it. And to bring up any related notions about activity, current or otherwise, IS WRONG. Because it all become moot point.
However....There are multiple counterarguements. But I'll let the whole discussion invoke your own opinions
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bamuwagero (8:36:45 PM): Say sorry...
bamuwagero (8:36:53 PM): to ssj and sazu.
Sonicboom2289 (8:37:03 PM): Hell No (well maybe to Sazu)
Sonicboom2289 (8:37:09 PM): What you need to understand...
bamuwagero (8:37:09 PM): why the heck not?
bamuwagero (8:37:16 PM): You're in the wrong
Sonicboom2289 (8:37:24 PM): Perhaps you should wait until I finish
Sonicboom2289 (8:37:32 PM): First of all
Sonicboom2289 (8:38:32 PM): You cannot come back here and state whatever you're saying because I here to cover your OOC duties. Your absent and all you have is leniancy from the site is self
Sonicboom2289 (8:38:45 PM): Not what goes on in your absency just because you think it's unfair
Sonicboom2289 (8:38:53 PM): Secondly
Sonicboom2289 (8:39:01 PM): I agree with what you're saying but at the same time
Sonicboom2289 (8:39:08 PM): You saw all the hate in those posts
Sonicboom2289 (8:39:11 PM): and nothing else
Sonicboom2289 (8:39:16 PM): I stated that they had to prove to me
Sonicboom2289 (8:39:21 PM): that they are willing to RP
Sonicboom2289 (8:39:30 PM): regardless of what they have do outside this RP
Sonicboom2289 (8:39:50 PM): Because their record for RPing isn't that stellar
Sonicboom2289 (8:39:55 PM): Sazu
Sonicboom2289 (8:40:04 PM): I greatly owe an apology to
Sonicboom2289 (8:40:18 PM): He did his app and he did it more wonderfully than anyone
Sonicboom2289 (8:40:31 PM): Gohan I gave a deadline. Sure he's working on it as we speak
Sonicboom2289 (8:40:36 PM): but if it's not finished by that time
bamuwagero (8:41:40 PM): You'll delete his account?...
Sonicboom2289 (8:42:16 PM): Unfortunately I will....Remember: "I said SPECIAL CASE" in which he has to prove to me that he wants to go through with this RP
Sonicboom2289 (8:42:20 PM): Look at it this way
Sonicboom2289 (8:42:29 PM): Let's see he finishes his post
Sonicboom2289 (8:42:32 PM): his app.
Sonicboom2289 (8:42:39 PM): And after that I lay off
Sonicboom2289 (8:42:51 PM): but since this RP is a joint effort story kind of RP
Sonicboom2289 (8:43:00 PM): Who is to say he will show up and commit
bamuwagero (8:43:18 PM): How long are you giving him? A week?
Sonicboom2289 (8:43:24 PM): Yeah
Sonicboom2289 (8:43:38 PM): And considering he's been to the site at least twice a day since the deadline was issued
Sonicboom2289 (8:44:02 PM): I can say that I kicked him into gear. Not pestered as you so aptly put it
Sonicboom2289 (8:47:01 PM): But I'm not being mean. You're familar enough with my abrasive attitude. Regardless of how wrong it sound I don't have any forsaken dark/evil bastaradish and dasterly intent behind my words
Sonicboom2289 (8:47:21 PM): Other wise I would have terminated him a while ago
bamuwagero (8:47:49 PM): Right
bamuwagero (8:47:57 PM): Lemme start speaking
bamuwagero (8:48:03 PM): I get your point, but I'd like to add my two cents
bamuwagero (8:48:09 PM): First of all...
bamuwagero (8:49:07 PM): I think I'm COMPLETELY in the right in telling you that I don't like what I'm seeing here and that you ought to apologize
bamuwagero (8:49:25 PM): I thought I posted that I would be ABSENT and thus inactive
bamuwagero (8:49:45 PM): And I CAN comment on what I feel about your conduct while I was absent
bamuwagero (8:49:52 PM): Secondly...
bamuwagero (8:49:58 PM): I understand about gohan.
bamuwagero (8:50:13 PM): But at least he wasn't INACTIVE FOR 6 MONTHS OR SO on KK [like me]
bamuwagero (8:50:18 PM): He is at least ACTIVE
bamuwagero (8:50:26 PM): And I know your abrasive attitude
bamuwagero (8:50:31 PM): BUT...
bamuwagero (8:50:43 PM): To swear at him because of his conduct at KK is WRONG
bamuwagero (8:50:58 PM): If he is inactive/not contributive to this site
bamuwagero (8:51:03 PM): That is a seperate matter
bamuwagero (8:51:11 PM): But we threw away the site.
bamuwagero (8:51:15 PM): It's completely open.
bamuwagero (8:51:23 PM): And like I said, it's your fault for not locking it down completely.
bamuwagero (8:51:33 PM): Check out all the other dead Bleach sites on the web.
bamuwagero (8:51:39 PM): The ADMINS CLOSED IT DOWN.
bamuwagero (8:51:48 PM): And anyhow
Sonicboom2289 (8:51:59 PM): Well I'm not a full admin
Sonicboom2289 (8:52:03 PM): I can only lock not close
bamuwagero (8:52:15 PM): You can (1) close all registrations (2) lock all boards.
bamuwagero (8:52:20 PM): Simple.
bamuwagero (8:52:41 PM): And even if you don't have any evil intent behind your actions
bamuwagero (8:52:43 PM): or words
bamuwagero (8:52:49 PM): What you did was wrong.
bamuwagero (8:52:55 PM): And I'm asking you to apologize.
Sonicboom2289 (8:53:02 PM): By your own words
Sonicboom2289 (8:53:20 PM): Apologizing to gohan will come when I have been completely IN THE WRONG
Sonicboom2289 (8:53:25 PM): and by that I mean RPing
Sonicboom2289 (8:53:33 PM): When I called fail on him (carrying over from KK)
Sonicboom2289 (8:53:40 PM): I called it for the lack of RPing
Sonicboom2289 (8:53:51 PM): Going to a site and saying crap
Sonicboom2289 (8:54:05 PM): without doing anything related to the entire purpose of the site is moot
Sonicboom2289 (8:54:23 PM): Like I said you are right about Sazu needing an apology
Sonicboom2289 (8:54:45 PM): And you are in your right to call fowl on cursing because as the OOC mod. that includes rules of the forum
Sonicboom2289 (8:54:58 PM): However to call on behavior in general is a personal right
Sonicboom2289 (8:55:08 PM): Especially on the site's founder
Sonicboom2289 (8:55:30 PM): And as relation to you being absent for months instead of just being active
Sonicboom2289 (8:55:36 PM): I'd rather hear that..
Sonicboom2289 (8:55:47 PM): you are absent and you'll be gone for a while
Sonicboom2289 (8:55:55 PM): Other than you showing up everyday and doing nothing
Sonicboom2289 (8:56:10 PM): Because I know when you have the site's undivided attention
Sonicboom2289 (8:56:22 PM): You will RP and do it in quantity and integrity
bamuwagero (8:57:00 PM): But Gohan is unreliable when it comes to activity in the actual RP
Sonicboom2289 (8:57:31 PM): Did you read the post where I basically said "unqtd. word for word".....
Sonicboom2289 (8:58:16 PM): That my intent was to boot him. However, I AM in the wrong if I do such based on such a reason as hurrying up with an app. or something
Sonicboom2289 (8:58:26 PM): And it forces me to do something that I don't want to do
Sonicboom2289 (8:58:37 PM): Which is boot a member to go through the trouble to find another one
Sonicboom2289 (8:58:44 PM): No one wants that....
Sonicboom2289 (8:59:04 PM): But personally and I believe according to the content of IC
Sonicboom2289 (8:59:16 PM): which includes Apps. and posts
Sonicboom2289 (8:59:20 PM): If you aren't going to do anything
Sonicboom2289 (8:59:23 PM): gtfo
Sonicboom2289 (9:00:03 PM): That wasn't so much as me TRYING to be mean. It was just more of "Shape up or I'm going to have to boot you". Because you're not contributing to what the site is mainly about
bamuwagero (9:02:18 PM): "I decided to not boot you in the event that YOU would show but I also recieved no message or public post on the site about you being busy until now. And to be honest that is the most unbelievable excuse I have ever heard in my life. And you can get mad that all you want but I've heard better explainations of things out of the asses of hobos strapped to the back of a public transit."
bamuwagero (9:02:20 PM): Quoted
bamuwagero (9:02:24 PM): If that was your intention
bamuwagero (9:02:29 PM): [to force him to be active]
bamuwagero (9:02:31 PM): By all means, try
bamuwagero (9:02:32 PM): BUT
bamuwagero (9:02:40 PM): KEEP TO THE RULES
bamuwagero (9:03:02 PM): You can boot him if he doesn't post his app in a week
bamuwagero (9:03:05 PM): That I don't care
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Now then....Let it be shown that here and in a P.M. I will apologize to Sazu. Not because Kenny brought it up. But 1.) Because he deserves it. 2.) And it needs to be official said.
He proved to me that he wants to be here. More than I could have imagined and I have a distinct sense of over admiration at the dedication and perhaps even time he put into his app. (specifically the history). So it is I, Monterrious McCaskill, who deserves your acceptance of my earnest apology. I'm sorry....
Moving On. Gohan WILL NOT, I repeat, WILL NOT recieve the same apology if the deadline is not met. I've repeated myself so many times and I will do so yet again. He has to prove to me beyond A DOUBT that he wants to be here. I've stated to Kenny that all "current transgressions will be aleiviated if he can complete said task."
In conclusion: According to general OOC procedures I goofed. So in accordance with that I will also apologize to Kenny (even though he's been absent and someone has to take over OOC.) If not me then assign someone else in your stead bro. However I harbor no regret over anything said. If there is another time where I distort OOC (i.e. cursing or improper behavior) over the OOC Moderators' head, please note that it is for a reason....Even if is personal.